Thursday, December 13, 2012

Campus Conversations on Judas

Last week, I had the opportunity to talk to President Leebron of Rice University about my research.  A video was produced from that conversation by our media department and was posted as part of a series of talks that President Leebron is doing with our faculty: Campus Conversations with the President.  Hope you like it.



5 comments:

John Dash said...

Very interesting. I sat up when you started talking about your interest in the early transgressors -- those who once were on the inside finding themselves on the doctrinal outside -- and what they can tell us about the shaping of cultures.

John Dash said...

Very interesting. I sat up when you started talking about your interest in the early transgressors -- those who once were on the inside finding themselves on the doctrinal outside -- and what they can tell us about the shaping of cultures.

lightseeker said...

Ditto what John said above. What may start out as an esoteric teaching to a minority of insiders becomes fringe as the movement goes mainstream (or "normalizes" as April put it), because the majority of people, the mainstream, cannot grasp the esoteric. Ironic how the original teaching may be viewed as heretical in some way later on.

Robert Wahler said...

Ms. DeConick,

OK, now that you have had your say, we need to see the real Judas -- the GNOSTIC one, Dr. DeConick. This is the "GOSPEL of Judas", not the "Outing of Judas". In gnostic terms, there could not be a better Judas. The only thing Meyer's side got wrong was the DEGREE to which Judas is 'the GOOD Judas'! He was as 'good' as good can GET in the "Gospel" (gospel means 'GOOD' News) of Judas.

When can we see the Dead Sea Scrolls somewhere IN ENGLISH online? That would settle this debate once and for all. If we had access online -- with free commentary -- to the Scrolls Pesherim, and in all available English translations, including Dr. Robert Eisenman's, we would find that JAMES was the Righteous Teacher who 'followed' 'Jesus' (see John 13:18's Psalm 41:9 in the DRB translation), whoever he might have been, as savior/Master.


In the Gospel of Judas, it will be seen with sober reflection, and a few simple cross-comparisons with the Scrolls Pesherim, and the First and Second Apocalypses of James and a few other references, that 'Judas' WAS REALLY JAMES IN ALL SOURCES WHERE HE APPEARS. This will soon become the norm in biblical studies in all places where free discussion of the THE FACTS is allowed to reign.

Right now, there is precious little available discussion resource dedicated to this proposition. Dr. Eisenman is about the only sounding board that informed amateurs such as myself can express our dissenting views on Judas and James.

I have a book on 'Judas' as James, and I would like everyone to have access to it, but I won't link to it for fear of being banned here (as often happens when amateurs try to butt in). If anyone wants to see the extensive details of the case for 'Judas' as James, email me at sahansdal at yahoo dot com, or post here and we can discuss it. I freely give my book manuscript away, as my interest is purely in furthering the understanding of ancient biblical texts.

Judas is not the one the scholars -- ANY OF THEM, including DeConick, Meyer, and Eisenman -- think he is. He was A MASTER, a full-on savior in his own right, as he is shown here becoming, and it is provably so: in the Gospel of Judas, in the gnostic gospels, and in the canonical New Testament gospels and Acts. Tellingly, he is completely MISSING in the Pauline corpus -- AWOL as it were -- where he should be FOUND -- if he was indeed real! --Robert Wahler

Robert Wahler said...

How can people think that 'Judas' was real after reading the obvious fake story in the gospels taken from Genesis 37:25-28. "Judah" sells his brother Joseph for "twenty shekels of silver" after discussing it among his 'brothers' over A COMMUNAL MEAL. 'Judas' is a stand-in for James the Just. Dr. Robert Eisenman and I prove it.